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CARLEY OVER TO YOU.

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CARLEY: HOURS FROM NOW THE

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NATION WILL BEGIN FINAL

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FAREWELLS TO THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT, TRIBUTES FROM ACROSS

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THE COUNTRY INCLUDING ONE MAN'S

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WHOSE JOB WAS TO PROTECT VICE

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PRESIDENT DURING CAMPAIGN IN

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FLORIDA MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO,

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TWO-TIME SENATE CANDIDATE JOINS

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US NOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

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BEING WITH US THIS MORNING.

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I HEAR YOU HAVE A PRETTY AMUSING

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STORY ABOUT A PERSONAL ENCOUNTER

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YOU HAD WITH THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT

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HAPPENED?

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>> GOOD MORNING, CARLEY, WELL,

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AS YOU SAID, ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO

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I WAS ON A PROTECTION DETAIL, I

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WAS IN AIR FORCE EOD, DISPOSAL

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AT THE TIME AND WE WERE ASSIGNED

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TO SECRET SERVICE ON THE DETAIL

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TO PROTECT THE VICE PRESIDENT AT

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AN EVENT IN FLORIDA AND I WAS IN

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THE LEAD CAR CLEARING MOTORCADE

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ROUTE ON AN INTERSTATE AND MY

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JOB WAS TO MAKE SURE THE

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OVERPASSES WERE CLEAR, THERE

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WEREN'T ABANDONED VEHICLE THAT

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COULD BE DANGEROUS AND THOSE

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KINDS OF THINGS AND WE SAW A

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LARGE TRUCK WITH THE WORD

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DYNAMITE ON THE SIDE OF THE

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TRAILER ON OVERPASS SO I HAD TO

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GET OUT THE POLICE CAR I WAS

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RIDING IN AND MAKE MY WAY UP

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THERE BUT AS I WAS MAKING MY WAY

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UP TO TRY TO CLIMB UP THE HILL

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TO OVERPASS I STEPPED DOWN ON

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THE GRASS AND ENDED UP WATER

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OVER MY HEAD.

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[LAUGHTER]

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>> IN SUIT AND TIE, SO I

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PROMPTLY GOT OUT OF THE WATER,

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WENT UP AND CLEARED THE VEHICLE,

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GOT BACK IN THE VEHICLE AND WENT

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AHEAD TO VENUE IN FRONT OF THE

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VICE PRESIDENT'S MOTORCADE AND

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HOPPED OUT OF CAR BECAUSE PART

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OF MY JOB WAS TO CLEAR THE VENUE

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ALSO AND THERE WAS A MAN WAITING

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FOR ME THERE, HIS NAME WAS

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GEORGE W. BUSH, HE LOOKED AT ME

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AND MUCH YOUNGER VERSION OF

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HIMSELF AS I WAS THEN TOO AND HE

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LOOKED AT ME AND GRIN THE GRIN,

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WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU, I TOLD HIM

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THE STORY, WE CHUCKLED A LITTLE

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BIT, HE PATTED ME ON THE BACK

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AND I WENT ON MY WAY, EVENTUALLY

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I DID SEE THE VICE PRESIDENT IN

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THE VENUE AND HE GAVE ME A LOOK

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AND A GRIN AND POINTED AT ME AND

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THAT WAS -- HE WAS A GREAT

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COMMANDER IN CHIEF WHEN HE DID

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BECOME PRESIDENT.

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I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT.

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CARLEY: YEAH, NOTHING LIKE

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LOOKING NOT YOUR BEST.

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SORRY FOR THAT HAPPENING TO YOU.

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NOW YOU SAY THAT BUSH 41, FORMER

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PRESIDENT IS THE MOST

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EXCEPTIONAL COMMANDER IN CHIEF

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OF THE MILITARY YOU'VE EVER

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SERVED UNDER, WHY?

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>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

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HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT I SERVED

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UNDER THAT HAD COMBAT EXPERIENCE

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WHICH I LATER GOT UNDER HIS

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COMMAND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN

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DESERT SHIELD AND DESERT STORM

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AND HE MADE THE DECISIONS THE

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RIGHT WAY, HE TOLD HIS GENERALS

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WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE, THEY

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CAME UP WITH A PLAN, THEY

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APPROVED THE PLAN AND THEY WENT

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OUT AND EXECUTED THE PLAN AND HE

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MADE STRATEGIC DECISIONS TO END

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THE CONFLICT WHEN IT WAS THE

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APPROPRIATE TIME, BUILT

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EXTREMELY GOOD COALITION THAT

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WAS MADE UP ALL KINDS OF

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COUNTRIES YOU WOULDN'T THINK OF

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TODAY THAT FOUGHT THAT WAR IN

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FIRST GULF WAR AND MADE RIGHT

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DECISIONS AFTER THE WAR AND THE

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MAN WHEN THE WALL CAME DOWN AND

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THE SOVIET UNION FELL AND THE

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COLD WAR ENDED, COMMANDER IN

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CHIEF BUSH COULD HAVE MADE

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HUNDREDS OF MISTAKES WITH THE

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MOVEMENTS OF FORCES AND U.S.

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FORCES IN EUROPE AND THOSE KINDS

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OF THINGS BUT THEY WERE ALL DONE

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ALMOST IN A FLAWLESS MANNER AND,

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YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS LATER A

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COMMANDER UNDER THE COMMANDER IN

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CHIEF THAT WAS BUSH 43I HAD

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ALREADY KNEW THAT HE WOULD BE

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GOOD COMMANDER IN CHIEF BUT HE

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JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE COMBAT

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EXPERIENCE, YOU COULD TELL THAT

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WAS THERE BUT BUSH 41 REALLY

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JUST DID IT RIGHT.

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CARLEY: WITH THAT IN MIND, DO

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YOU THINK HE'S BEEN GIVEN ENOUGH

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CREDIT FOR ALL THAT HE

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ACCOMPLISHED DURING HIS 4 YEARS

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IN OFFICE?

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>> OH, ABSOLUTELY NOT BUT YOU

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KNOW WHAT, KNOWING HIM THE WAY

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THAT WE KNOW HIM TODAY I THINK

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HE JUST LOOKED AT THAT AND SAID,

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WELL, IT IS WHAT IT IS, MY JOB

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WAS TO SERVE AND HE HUMBLY MOVED

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ON AND CONTINUED TO SERVE HIS

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ENTIRE LIFE AND SERVING US

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TODAY.

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CARLEY: WHAT A HUMBLE MAN, THE

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BUSH PRESIDENTS ON THE SCREEN,

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ONE OF THE FINAL CONVERSATIONS

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WAS WITH HIS SON, SHARED I LOVE

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YOU MESSAGE, NOW IN A BETTER